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Trixtah ([personal profile] trixtah) wrote2007-10-13 12:08 pm
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More on Stardust

[livejournal.com profile] stormkpr indirectly reminded me that part of the reason I don't like fairy tales in general is their often moralising tone. I don't like parables either.

The moral of Stardust, as presented in the movie, is that love is unconditional. You know, you don't make the young suitor go off and bring you back a fallen star so as to "prove" his love.

<rant on> I hate that. Of course love is fucking conditional. There are personality quirks and behaviours that make you fall in love with that person. There is the underlying sense of passion, shared goals and compatibility that makes you stay in love with that person. There is the avoidance of unrecoverable fuck-up behaviour or too-divergent paths on both sides that don't kill the love. If those aren't conditions, I don't know what are.

And yes, love does have to be proven. Not necessarily by way of showering gifts or doing X thing (like standing in a church while a strange ritual is enacted over you). But love needs to be demonstrated in such ways that the demonstrator truly feels and that the demonstratee can truly perceive. If that doesn't happen - in whatever way works for both participants - love is not sustainable.

If those feelings and willingness to enact them only go one way, then it's sure as hell not love, it's infatuation. And even that is conditional on the object of infatuation maintaining whatever it is that is so attractive - good looks, "coolness", whatever - or the infatuated person remaining in their state of mental aberration.

So, yeah, each time that particular line came up in the movie, my eyeballs went into a spasm of rolling around in my head for five minutes, so it was distracting. If they were saying, "love isn't selfish", well, ok. It wasn't framed that way, unfortunately.
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[identity profile] trixtah.livejournal.com 2007-10-16 10:33 am (UTC)(link)
They use the phrase "love is unconditional" two or three times in the movie, most notably when Yvaine tells Tristan that she's in love with him while he's a mouse. I wouldn't have had a problem at all with the premise that love should be "freely given". :-)